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Erikjust

Legendary Disney animator dies at 95

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWB...04/15/obit.johnston.ap/index.html

I know he was pretty old, but R.I.P.
Guys like you are a rear breed indeed and each one of you who dies is tragic to the world of animation.
NecroVMX

the guy looked pretty good for 95, i would have guessed more like 70
Black Flag NC

Wow, 95 years old. We should all be so lucky. Man, those were the days when animators were REALLY animators.

I have a feeling if you took away their computers, today's animators couldn't draw you a stick figure.
KITTIE hXc

I don't know if I would like to live that long or not. Maybe if I was to be very healthy.

    Disney movies now days are horrible. Every few or so are okay, but nothing like they used to be.
GamerGirl220

I agree with you BlackFlag NC.  Although I do like movies like Shrek and Toy Story I miss the really animated movies such as Snow White, Sleepy Beauty etc.  There is a certain beauty about movies that have be animated by hand.  Hopefully movies such as Snow White etc are not going to disappear entirely.
Erikjust

Not the original ones by Disney nope highly unlikely, worst chase scenario would be that they deleted the original voices in favor of newer ones.

But could such movies be made once again by any other then disney and such?

Highly unlikely the money required to produce such a thing, makes it simply too expensive and time consuming, for it to be some used by any other companies then those who can really afford it.

Why do you think most of what we see today is made by Korean animators, because making it in America and other western countries from start to finish would be FAR TOO expensive for to be worth it.

In the end it all boils down to money.
launchpad25

Erikjust wrote:
Why do you think most of what we see today is made by Korean animators, because making it in America and other western countries from start to finish would be FAR TOO expensive for to be worth it.

In the end it all boils down to money.

I blame the American animation industry for unionizing itself. Thereby pricing themselves out of the market. I also blame the greedy studio heads who will never be satisfied until they figure out a way to make all animation costs 2 cents to produce. Even if it sacrifices animation jobs in the process.
Erikjust

On the other hand you wouldn´t want japanese conditions now would you.
If you are not one of the 10 best animators that means you won´t have a steady job.
If oyu get sick well then another one will get your place, and if cartoons doesn´t make enough money, well guess who´s fired not the bosses that´s for sure.
launchpad25

In light of this topic, i found an interesting quote from Big Cartoon Database that i found quite interesting, and eye opening about why people steer clear from animation these days.

Big Cartoon Database wrote:
Let's be clear about this. There is quite a difference between a creator who cares little about creativity and only about profit such as Paul Terry and a person like Walt Disney who set out to improve the animated cartoon at the risk of financial bankruptcy. Those two men both had different purposes about the creation of animated characters.

I don't think one has to be lost in a "happy sunshine world" to see that Disney cared about other things than just profits. Watch Disney's cartoons in chronological order from about the creation of Mickey Mouse in 1928 until the release of the feature Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in 1937 and one sees tremendous growth and change occurring. One does not see such a thing in his competitors at the time.

Disney spent a lot of money in order to achieve this. Not only were the use of sound and color extra costs, but he paid for art instruction for his artists, which was unheard of at the time. The cost of Disney's cartoons continued to rise during this period, and yet his artists were taking more time (because of careful study and experimentation) and producing less animation than the other studios. (Disney had no "footage quota" unlike every other animation studio of the day.) They were getting better results because of this, but in general Disney's mode of producing cartoons would have been considered bad business by anyone else. Certainly it was by Paul Terry, who had to be dragged kicking and screaming into using sound and color technologies. The typical business model is to cut costs in production while increasing worker productivity. Disney did the complete opposite. He was a risk taker, and such people don't always think about the bottom line.
Erikjust

Why do you think that one of the persons i have the greatest of respect for is Walt Disney.

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