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John Gibson

G.I. JOE- International Hero?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoHYkjZ4DS8

Did I miss something? I need to look this up, and get back to you, unless someone else has an explanation.
John Gibson

http://screenrant.com/archives/gi-joe-a-real-international-he-993.html

Well, there's this, but that's just the movie. When did we become scared of every little shit in this country? America. Home of the brave, my sorry ass. Bunch of goddamn pussies.
launchpad25

I have no idea if that was done recently, or durring the show's initial run, but whatever the case, i'm sure this will make the producers of the upcoming 'G.I.Joe' movie will happy with this theme since their leaning towards a more global slant.
John Gibson

You know, I have nothing against other countries, but GI JOE was meant to be based in America, fighting for America's freedom. It's not meant to be global. The article says they want the movie to reach a wider audience. Why? There's lots of movies that reach audiences all over the world, and are translated into countless other languages.

Can't we just deal with just reaching a regular audience, and see if a more global audience follows us in time? If not, then there's nothing we can do, and odds are the movie will blow goat anyway.
John Gibson

The popular all-American comic-book military man and action figure dating back to the 1940s is undergoing a significant transformation for the Paramount Pictures-distributed "G.I. Joe" film, which begins production in February and is scheduled for release in summer 2009. No longer will G.I. Joe be a U.S. Special Forces soldier, the "Real American Hero" who, in his glory days, single-handedly won World War II. In the politically correct new millennium, G.I. Joe bears no resemblance to the original. Paramount has confirmed that in the movie, the name G.I. Joe will become an acronym for "Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity" an international, coed task force charged with defeating bad guys. It will no longer stand for government issued, as in issued by the American government. "G.I. Joe is not an international hero. That's crap,"

What is it with all this politically correct crap??!!
Black Flag NC

Dude that sucks hard. We're not talking foreign policy, we're talking about a FUCKING CARTOON! A cartoon with completely fictional heros and villains. I mean if you made a movie called "American Warriors of Christ versus the Arabian Jew-Stompers", then that would be offensive. But this is an American franchise about a make believe battle between good and evil. And, as a former soldier, I say if you're offended by the depiction of the American soldier, then go to hell.
John Gibson

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Splodge

I always find this kind of thing extreme.
I see their point in changing it but I think America's being too careful these days.
There has been alot of arrogance in American cinema, where America is shown to represent the whole world and there is alot of blind patriotism in American society. I think in recent years, American's have become aware of how the rest of the world sees this stuff and are starting to censor themselves (so as not to offend anyone). The biggest example I can think of is in Superman Returns. You know the line.

I'm from Europe and my favourite comic-book is Captain America. On the surface, the whole concept of Captain America is really cheezy American patriotism. If that's all there was to it, I don't think I could stomach it. But in truth, the stories are good and thats all that really matters.
I'm not a fan of GI Joe, but if they make a good movie or TV show, they shouldn't worry about trying to offend anyone, if it's good enough to stand up by itself. They shouldn't have to edit themselves to be overly careful.
Black Flag NC

Splodge wrote:
I always find this kind of thing extreme.
I see their point in changing it but I think America's being too careful these days.
There has been alot of arrogance in American cinema, where America is shown to represent the whole world and there is alot of blind patriotism in American society. I think in recent years, American's have become aware of how the rest of the world sees this stuff and are starting to censor themselves (so as not to offend anyone). The biggest example I can think of is in Superman Returns. You know the line.

I'm from Europe and my favourite comic-book is Captain America. On the surface, the whole concept of Captain America is really cheezy American patriotism. If that's all there was to it, I don't think I could stomach it. But in truth, the stories are good and thats all that really matters.
I'm not a fan of GI Joe, but if they make a good movie or TV show, they shouldn't worry about trying to offend anyone, if it's good enough to stand up by itself. They shouldn't have to edit themselves to be overly careful.



Right on, dude. I know that we're not the most beloved nation on the planet, but most of us mean well. I don't think patriotism is something to be ashamed of whether you believe in the crooks in charge or not.
launchpad25

Splodge wrote:
I'm from Europe and my favourite comic-book is Captain America. On the surface, the whole concept of Captain America is really cheezy American patriotism. If that's all there was to it, I don't think I could stomach it. But in truth, the stories are good and thats all that really matters.

I think the globalist mentality is what's keeping Captain America from getting a new movie. You have a guy who's dressed up like the American flag, and that could scream 'patriotism' to most countries. Ironically, Wonder Woman's costume is kinda like the American flag, yet she came from a mysterious island ruled by women. It's almost as if we're losing our identity as a country.
Splodge

I think it could probably be possible to make a great Captain America movie, without changing much.
In the stories Captain America was created to help win the war, not only by fighting but also by inspiring others. It was pure propaganda. That's not a secret - that's a part of the story. Later on when he begins to question his country, he chooses to be Captain America not to represent the American country but to represent the ideals America claims to have.
A Captain America movie would not be about American patriotism at all. It would be about a man (who is a tool for the government) choosing to do good and doing it in the name of an ideal (perhaps a fictional ideal in the real world).

It would take a great writer and a gutsy producer to make it happen but I think if it were presented right nobody would object. I doubt it will happen perfectly but I would love to see that movie.



As for losing your national identity, I wouldn't worry about it too much. For me, my personal culture is whatever is in my own life - the people I know, the things I have experienced. Those are the important things. I have deliberately chosen to distance myself from nationalism. For me, it gets in the way. It causes walls between people and false prejudices. I have no problem with patriotism but I don't have time to care about these abstract concepts when I can be living my life.

Still, there is absolutely no excuse for compromising art. If a story is a certain way, it should stay that way, no matter who it's about or what country they represent. If it's presented in context, it should be acceptable by anyone.

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