Posted: Sep 15 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Does anybody else see the irony in this image?
I'm not talking about politics. Honestly, I'm not from America and I haven't really educated myself on American politics.
What really pisses me off about this picture is the fact that it's a child. I have a huge problem with parents who bring their children to protests, whatever the cause.
I believe that everyone who attends a protest, should be there because they believe in the cause and they want to make a stand. Children of that age haven't educated themselves about politics and really they don't care. When I was a kid, I didn't care about the Berlin Wall, or even local stuff like Northern Ireland (I still don't but for different reasons).
Bringing a child to a protest like this is like indoctrinating them into your beliefs. I believe it's important to teach children, and to guide them in what you believe is right, but it's wrong for them to follow blindly without even really understanding what's going on. _________________ http://www.what-song.net http://www.rogershanks.com
Richard Dawkins ( a known atheist) would very much be able to identify himself whit your opinion.
Though he takes it a little further what he is against is the labeling of children.
Like he says you would never say that is a Markism child or a Communist child.
But you have no problem what so ever in labeling a child a catholic or a Protestant child.
Such behavior he is strongly against for like he says the child has no idea what so ever about religion or politics and as such shouldn´t be labeled as one.
How is dragging a kid to church not indoctrinating them with something they don't understand? Hell, most adults don't understand organized religion. _________________ "One of God's own prototypes. Too weird to live, too rare to die." --Hunter S Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." --Clarence Darrow
I thought it was safer not to bring up religion but yes, I agree it's the same thing.
I grew up a Catholic (I wouldn't really consider myself a Catholic anymore though). At the age of about 12, there's a Sacrement called Confirmation. Basically it's like being baptised again, except because you're a bit more grown up, it's a choice. Making Confirmation is essentially confirming that you believe in the religion.
That's actually pretty cool if you think about it - they educate you in Catholicism for 12 years, then give you the choice to confirm whether or not you support it. It seems really fair.
The only problem with it is, that it's not really a choice. It's generally assumed that all kids are going to have a confirmation. They're not even asked, their parents just make them do it to keep up tradition.
If somehow they made the 12 years, really about educaton; basically saying, "This is what we believe" and gave them a real choice after that, it would be somewhat defensible. If a child was free to walk away from a religion, without repurcussions from the family, church etc., then it would be somewhat fair.
The way things are right now (well, here at least), it's very much indoctrination. _________________ http://www.what-song.net http://www.rogershanks.com
I was baptised when I was maybe 6 or 7. By about age 14, I had completely abandoned Christianity. I told my parents how I felt and I never went back to church.
My parents were and are still cool with it. Not all parents would be so understanding. _________________ "One of God's own prototypes. Too weird to live, too rare to die." --Hunter S Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." --Clarence Darrow
I know a certain kids parents that are convincing him that Santa Claus doesn't bring them presents, Jesus does. And when the parents spot Santa at the mall, she takes them in the opposite direction, even though the kids ask "who is that?"
Seriously, what the fucking hell? _________________ John R. Gibson
Host/Writer/Creator Video Masters TV
"The whole planet Houston?" -General Zod
"Am I supposed to conduct with my penis?" -Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
"What does God need with a starship?" - Star Trek V
I know a certain kids parents that are convincing him that Santa Claus doesn't bring them presents, Jesus does. And when the parents spot Santa at the mall, she takes them in the opposite direction, even though the kids ask "who is that?"
Lol that was acting/staged if i ever saw it.
Anyways most kids where i live (in Denmark) only gets confirmed because of the party and the presents they get.
My parents how ever told me that i would get the party and the presents anyways, and the only thing i would miss would be the whole church thing.
Well Churches always bored me (i felt like i would fall asleep every time i was in one) So i choose not to be Confirmed i got the presents, the money, the party in other words i got everything i would have gotten if i had been confirmed.
Plus the whole thing about Christmas being a Christian tradition, i think that mother should read up upon history.
Christmas is an OLD pagan party invented a LONG time ago to celebrated the return of the light and the victory of the sun over the darkness.
The only thing Christianity has brought is a change of date from the 21st to the 24th (or the day after in some countries) and the notion that we are celebrating the birth of a properly non-existing person.
Staged? I dunno, don't think a family would go through the trouble. heh
_________________ John R. Gibson
Host/Writer/Creator Video Masters TV
"The whole planet Houston?" -General Zod
"Am I supposed to conduct with my penis?" -Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
"What does God need with a starship?" - Star Trek V
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