Posted: Mar 03 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: A pair of boobs gives it an R-rating
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When production first began on Terminator Salvation, rumors began to circulate that Warner Bros wanted the film to be PG-13. At Comic-Con last year, McG assured fans in attendance that he is under no pressure to deliver a PG-13 rating. Referring to the studio executives for this film, McG explained “I’ve been given their blessing to make the picture…and if it’s a rated R picture, then that’s that.” He elaborated that he’s not against the idea of a PG-13 rating, but that the ultimate rating will depend completely upon what the final vision for the film is. When I was on the film set, McG showed us a reel of early footage from the film. One of the clips included Moon Bloodgood topless in the rain, which to me, confirmed that McG wasn’t lying.
Today at WonderCon, McG made a point to mention that Warner Bros wants him to cut out the topless footage from the film. He insisted that he thinks that it should remain in the released feature film, citing that Bloodgood’s character is partly a homage to James Cameron’s Sarah Connor — a strong yet beautiful woman. McG polled the audience, asking if they wanted to see the scene in the final film, which got the response that you might expect from an overwhelmingly male comic convention crowd. Having seen the footage myself, not in the context of the film or even scene, I will say this - it was beautifully and tastefully shot. I’m not sure if it furthers the story along (as I said, I did not see the shot in the context of the full scene), but it didn’t seem gratuitous at all.
It seems to me that the only reason that Warner Bros would want the scene cut from the film is if they want a PG-13 cut of the film. There is no other possible reason. McG publicly called out the name of the Warner Bros executive that is pushing for the removal of the shot in question, and made it clear that he would like to keep the shot in. And while McG didn’t flat out say that he wants to fight for a R-Rating, that’s how it came across to me and most everyone in the convention hall. And making a public statement is a strong message to the movie studio producing the film. McG’s vision is evidently R-Rated after all, but will the film be edited down for a more marketable (potentially more profitable) PG-13 rating?
So let me get this straight you can show people getting killed shot to pieces and so forth.
And all you need is a PG-13 rating.
But show a pair of naked breasts and you immediately get an R-rating okay thats bullshit.
Apparently people in Hollywood think that you can show people getting shoot to pieces or hey perhaps even eaten alive, and nobody over the age of 13 will take any damage what so ever.
But show them a naked female body ohh no they are damaged for life, their young minds forever destroyed.
I think the people that invented that law needs to get their head examined, since it is far more likely that their so called fragile young minds will take damaged of all that violence rater then any naked womens that shows their upper body in rain.
Good old conservative Christians and aggressive liberals are gonna protect us... from BOOBIES!!! I'm so glad politicians and the FCC are looking out for my delicate sensibilities.
When I was a kid, PG movies had tits and bush. Airplane is a good example. Guess what? I'm OK. That's right. I saw the boobs. I liked them. I'm OK.
Sorry if I made Jesus cry. _________________ "One of God's own prototypes. Too weird to live, too rare to die." --Hunter S Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." --Clarence Darrow
Ya know, there was a movie in 1985, called "Just one of the Guys". In short, girl dresses up as guy, girl falls for guy, girl exposes her boobs to guy. Even though it was only a 2 second flash, it was still like what...PG-13, I think. I could be wrong.
I should do a rant on this kind of thing, maybe tie it in with censorship. _________________ John R. Gibson
Host/Writer/Creator Video Masters TV
"The whole planet Houston?" -General Zod
"Am I supposed to conduct with my penis?" -Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
"What does God need with a starship?" - Star Trek V
March 04, 2009
"The Watchmen" Lie: Hollywood Sends More Depravity Your Kids' Way Costumed as "Superhero" Flick
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By Debbie Schlussel
If you take your kids to see "The Watchmen," you're a moron.
If you see it yourself, you're also probably a moron and a vapid, indecent human being. The movie arrives in theaters at Midnight, Thursday Night. It's rated "R"--which should kinda sorta be a hint--but it really deserves an "NC-17," at the very least. And plenty of clueless parents brought their young kids and kept them there for the entire almost three hour "experience" at the screening I attended.
Yes, I know, it's being heavily marketed as a superhero movie, with action figures for your kids. But that--and the heroic-looking movie trailer--are a big, fat lie. And that's where real parenting comes in . . . like actually investigating the movie before you take or send your kids to see this garbage.
In fact, as a movie critic who sees most new releases, I haven't seen a more violent, depraved movie in years (not to mention a longer, more boring movie with a more preposterous and silly plot). This movie makes the graphic bloodshed of the recently released "Friday the 13th" look like "Cinderella."
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This really isn't a superhero movie at all. In fact, there was little "superheroing" until after the second hour of this nearly three-hour exercise on defining deviancy down. Some on the right are claiming this is a conservative movie because it's made by some of the same people as "300" (read my review). But this is no "300." (And that wasn't for kids either, but this is far much less so.) A few lines of dialogue by the character "Rorschach" deriding "liberals and intellectuals" doesn't excuse the nearly three hours of poison here. In fact, the movie kind of has a peacenik-themed ending and "message" regarding nuclear weapons. If this move is "conservative," who the heck needs liberal?
There were so many disgusting, violent, morbid, grisly scenes and acts of killing, I had to start writing them down, lest I forget. And that's in addition to the rape scene between superheroes (complete with violent beating of a female superhero) and an explicit sex scene between two other superheroes. Oh, and don't forget another superhero's swinging computer-generated penis frequently in your face on-screen.
In just the opening credits of this mindless celluloid claptrap, there's a lesbian take-off on the famous photo of a woman kissing a sailor in Manhattan who is returning victorious from World War II. The lesbian make-out scene, featuring a "superhero," is bad enough. But then, we see cops looking over their naked, bloodied, dead bodies on a bed, with the words "LESBIAN WHORES," written in blood on the wall.
Mommy, mommy, what's a lesbian? What's a whore? And remember, this is just the opening credits.
The "plot" of this movie--if you can call it a plot--is that there were costumed superheroes in the '40s and beyond. They grew old, but some of them didn't. Then a new crop of costumed superheroes with special powers cropped up, some of whom were related to the older ones and some who still remained from the older group. But they all retired. Now, a superhero known as "The Comedian"--who is also a rapist and shot a Vietnamese woman who was pregnant with his kid (all of which we see depicted on-screen)--is murdered, and some of the superheroes, "The Watchmen," get back together to find out who did it.
At the same time, the Soviets are about to nuke America. It's 1985 and Nixon is President. We've won in Vietnam. Oh, and Henry Kissinger has a Russian accent. And Ronald Reagan is thinking of running for President in 1998. Wow, isn't that cool that they got it wrong on purpose? I'm so amazed at this "high-brow art" of deliberately getting dates and timelines wrong, you know, just to be "artistic," and get the drooling of the critics. That is sooooo genius. Like way totally cool.
Maybe if I make a movie about how Eisenhower was President in 1972, we "lost" World War II, and Bin Laden was gonna bomb the World Trade Center then, I'll be cool, too. . . so long as it's "dark" and I include a bunch of rape, torture, explicit sex scenes, and extremely graphic killings, and oh, write a "graphic novel" a/k/a comic book about it, first.
In the midst of this stupid story, we're treated to the following:
* Dogs fighting over, tearing apart, and eating a six-year-old girl--we're shown them chowing down on and tearing apart the remaining leg and leg bone, with the sock and shoe still on the bone as the dogs wrestle over it;
* A close up of man repeatedly getting an axe-blade driven through his skull while he's being butchered;
* At least two very graphic scenes of naked superhero "Dr. Manhattan" vaporizing people to just blood, limbs, and guts hanging from the ceiling or spread in the snow;
* Many scenes of Dr. Manhattan's computer generated penis swinging about;
* A kid biting a giant, bloody chunk of flesh out of another kid's face--he grows up to be "Rorschach," one of the superheroes' compatriots;
* A man's hands and arms being sawed off with an electric saw--we're shown the bloody stumps and the bloody sawed off limbs in close up shots;
* A man with vat of hot french fry oil deliberately thrown over his head--we literally see him fry, and he ultimately dies, we're told (no kidding);
* Many, many scenes of people's hands, arms, fingers being broken in half or crunched by the "superheroes";
* Cops being set on fire and burning to death by superhero compatriot "Rorschach;"
* Superhero "The Comedian" (a bad Robert Downey, Jr. look-alike) brutally beating and raping another superhero;
* Superhero "The Comedian" shooting and killing a Vietnamese woman because she's pregnant with his kid;
* Superhero "The Comedian" being thrown off a roof of a tall building--we see his body hit the ground and the blood flow out;
* Two superheroes have an explicit sex scene in a spaceship--she's on top, then he's on top, awesome--you can teach your young kids multiple sexual positions before they even reach puberty, by taking them to see this (there's a less explicit sex scene between the slutty superheroine and another superhero not long before that).
And these are just the highlights, plus superheroes hurling obscenities--great for the kiddies. There's so much more--along with horrible make-up, bad acting, and terrible computer generated images (including the penis). Not to mention, a bad, extremely slow, and boring script.
Yup, this is the garbage that Rupert Murdoch's Fox and Warner Brothers and Paramount are marketing toward your kids. All of these studios have a piece in this movie. And even thought the budget was just $100 to $125 million, because of a long legal battler between WB and Fox, the legal fees and pay-out make it such that they must recoup at least $200 or 300 million and make a profit. To do so, they are pimping the movie to all niches, especially your young kids.
But just because shameless whores and crack dealers of Hollywood deal this stuff out, doesn't mean you have to buy it and poison your kids' minds with it.
Remember the morons I told you about who took their kids to see the latest "Friday the 13th," last month? Well, they were back with their kids at a Monday Night screening of this horribly depraved, whacked out movie.
Remember the White single mother who told me her ten-year-old son could see it because "he knows it's not real and he knows the difference between right and wrong"? Well, she was back with her ten-year-old, and they waited in line for at least two hours with their free pass to get in to this screening, I'm told. I saw them walking out at the end.
Her son is going to grow up to be messed up. Don't do the same to your kid.
And do yourself a favor, too. Save the ten bucks and the three hours of your life you'll never get back. And the nightmares of some guy's bloody, sawed-off arms and hands still clinging to the doors of a jail cell.
I don't just worry that this is the new superhero movie being marketed to your kids today. I worry about the ones that will be even more depraved a decade from now.
Your ravings would be quite accurate is this was the 1970s, but this is 2009 kids these days are bottled up with all kinds of stuff.
They don´t care about all those things you put up as bad, heck most 13 year old would properly treat it as the holy grail itself, and if they aren´t allowed to see it in the cinemas well they are just going to download it and watch it anyway.
Well, parents are morons anyway, cause they take their kids to see PG-13 to R movies just to shut them up for 2.5 hours, but the reality is some of them don't shut up for those 2.5 hours, cause they're asking too many questions, jumping up and down in their seat, cause they're loaded with assloads of chocolate, and ignoring the adult conversation parts of the movie by playing tag in the theater, cause seeing adults having a conversation is boring, after all. They wanna see action.
This critic has some points, the parents should do their homework on movies like this before they take their kids, or worse "Drop them off, and pick them up later".
The truth is despite this critics' review or impression of the film, kids from 6-16 are going to see this movie cause of the action, and because it has costumed characters. Half of them probably never read a Watchmen book in their lives. _________________ John R. Gibson
Host/Writer/Creator Video Masters TV
"The whole planet Houston?" -General Zod
"Am I supposed to conduct with my penis?" -Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
"What does God need with a starship?" - Star Trek V
Once again. Grew up on Porkys and Friday the Thirteenth. Saw tons of titties and gore. I'm fine. Polite, educated, and a productive member of American society.
PS: I had real parents. _________________ "One of God's own prototypes. Too weird to live, too rare to die." --Hunter S Thompson Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." --Clarence Darrow
I grew up on violent 80s movies and movies with sex and rape in them. I wasn't even 10 years old when I saw a lot of that stuff. My parents were pretty normal. They didn't really have to bang it into my head that something was fantasy, I just already knew because it was common sense to me. Thus none of it had an effect on me. I'm not sure why boobies or violence would have an effect on children old enough to realize what's right and wrong. Maybe I just always had a good head on my shoulders? Or maybe some parents are just really, really lame? I don't know.
I don't know what to think when I see stuff like this. There are tons of studies suggestion that violent movies or stuff with sex in them do affect children but I wonder if it's as simple as they make it out to be. To me it seems like the personality the kids have before they even lay eyes on a violent movie is more important than the movie they're seeing because that's what would determine how it's processed in their minds. I've never been one to just "blame the movies".
I'm an anime fan and I see a lot of crazy shit that comes out for kids in Japan. Some of the most popular stuff for kids in Japan are action shows like DragonBall that are filled with violence, blood, decapitation, perverted jokes, boobs, ass, etc (and when it comes to American television we have to censor it because apparently our kids can't handle it). Yet Japan is a country that has one of the lowest crime rates in the world as well as one of the most sexually conservative (funny considering all the weird fetishes they have there lol). They must be doing something right to make sure their kids know what's up. So to me that's proof positive that you can't just blame the movies or games or music or whatever. It goes deeper than that.
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